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[Megell]

Are an evil cancerious tubor that is out to get us all.

Futhermore this topic has absolutely no revilance what-so-ever and will be used to remind you all that we need to have more form activity.

do it for the rabbits.

That is all - thankyou.

[Moose]

I second this notion.


The potatoes i mean.

[Drackir]

Uh oh. This post made moose update his avatar. What do we do?!

[Megell]

*Hands drack a rifle* You should be the one who does it, he's your pet after all.

[Drackir]

I do enjoy a good moosehead...

[Caseyweederman]

In that case you should use a strongbow, not a rifle.

[Drackir]

I see what you did there!

[Caseyweederman]

You broke the pattern! I mean... Uh, Guinness.

[Megell]

Stella guys. Just stella.

[Moose]

Went to an irish pub the other day and tried Guinness for the first time....
i've never tasted shit before but i imagine that's what it would taste like if it were a drink.

[Caseyweederman]

Ahh, Guinness is alright. Nutritious, too.
But don't ever feel that you need to force yourself to enjoy beer. The only thing it gets you is the ability to drink things that you don't like that make you do stupid things.
"You've unlocked an achievement! You are now an alcoholic."

[Megell]

You sum up the against points rather fluidly (pun intented). But their are a few pro's that should be mentioned from the alchole(ic) perspective, keep in mind this is assuming that the drug is used in moderation:

1) You do stupid things - and CAN benifit for it.
Don't get me wrong, being stupid is criminal long term, but occassionally having a drug that can make you focus more on the now - rather then anaylising the now - can be a powerful aid to many people who are otherwise inhibitioned in social settings. Simply put by all drinking a small amount we can trade anaylitical behavours for a more hands on experiance. Simply put, alchole is a social lubricant.

2) alchole can serve as a powerful pain supressent for short term grief. Breakups - lost oppertunities - and other tragedies are often best met with wine. A bartender knows more of a persons problems then their doctor (as with alchole we are more open). As long as it doesn't become a habit, it can safely give a grief stricken person a good outlet for person pain provided they have someone to grief too. It's because it interfears with logic and lets us deal with those emotions emotionally for short term. For example if you break up with a Girl friend because you are going in a different direction - you can logic it out and explain it, it doesn't change the fact that you have now been denied your dopimine high. You will still feel sad. Sense and sensibility - all of that.

3) Warped perspective can give new perspective. Writers tend to be alcholics. Try reading dubliners drunk, it actually makes alot more sense. Especially plays like waiting for gadot and most of beckett. The thing that alchole does along with other mind altering substances is it changes for brief periods the way a humans brain processes information. Native tribes for example used drugs for spirt quests (as we are ALL too familar with). It's a great way of developing new and intresting ideas internally - or at least developing new ways of thinking. Alchole is the same.

Summation.
- Mind altering substances - not always a bad thing. Just use responsibity when dealing with them.

[Caseyweederman]

Sorry, I've got to apply a slightly different perspective here.
1) Yeah, stupid stuff is fine and whatever, but if you can't do it sober, it wasn't worth doing. Become a person who can do what he wants while sober and then when you do things they'll mean something.
2) Using alcohol as a bandaid is very unhealthy, however temporary. If you drank every time something bad happened, eesh.
3) Some good writers do drink a lot. They're good writers because they have a tremendous amount of pain, and they drink because they have a tremendous amount of pain. It would make more sense to say "If you want to be a great writer, be in a lot of pain and pour that into your writing".
Mind-alterers are quick fixes, cheap tricks. You can get lucky and short circuit your way into inspiration. You're just as likely to start beating your girlfriend (and then she'll leave and then you'll start drinking more heavily).
If you want to become inspired, become a deeper person by working hard and focusing on your dreams. Don't use such a horrendously destructive crutch.

tl;dr: Drink if you want, don't expect it to make you COOLer or SMARTer or SEXier or BETTer at dealing with grief than you are. It just makes you louder and throw up sometimes.