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#1 Mizukage

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 03:02 PM

For those of you unfamiliar with this myth I'll lay down some backstory.

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Zeus, son of Cronus son of Uranus was father of the greek/roman pantheon. He charged the titan Prometheus (foresight) to create all beasts on earth (some say just humans, others that both Prometheus and Epimetheus, his brother, (afterthought) were given the task.)

Prometheus gave all the gifts to the animals, leaving nothing for humans. He decided to steal fire from the gods (for only they had fire) to give to the humans.

Prometheus was successful, but could not escape Zeus' watchful eye.

Zeus punished Prometheus for the theft by chaining him to a rock (some say near the Aegean, others in the Caucasian mountains) and letting an eagle come down and eat his liver. every night, Prometheus' liver would grow back only to be eaten the next day.

Now is where it gets interesting.

Zeus knew of his eventual death at the hands of one of his sons from a "conference" he had held with the fades. Even they, however did not know the name of Zeus' killer, saying only Prometheus would.

Zeus promised to release Prometheus if he would give the name of the killer but Prometheus said nothing. Eventually Zeus grew weary of this and abandoned Prometheus who remained in torment until his rescue by Heracles.


What I want to know is what was in that Prophecy entitled. I have heard it before so I know it exists.

Who Done It? If you know, or have an idea please give a post, I have looked through the extensive list (and it is extensive) of all beings that Zeus sired and only one rings a bell. If you tell me I'll tell you. deal?

Please! its burning me up inside!
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 09:49 PM

The Greeks had a way of rooting for the underdog. Therefore, I can only imagine that it would be a mortal who was to be Zeus' killer by their mythology. Unfortunately, my knowledge of Greek mythology and heroes isn't as extensive as it would need to be to venture a guess at such an identity. I can only say for certain that, given a list of possible killers, I would choose one of the mortals over a god.

I'll do a bit of research and see if I can't come up with an educated guess sometime shortly.

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 01:58 PM

Hmm, That is not true. it is not probably a greek myth. the greeks stopped writing myths after the Odessey. the Romans were the ones who grew on the myths.

The kill is not going to be human. The gods were immortal and couldn't be harmed by mortals.

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 02:16 PM

Hmm, That is not true. it is not probably a greek myth. the greeks stopped writing myths after the Odessey. the Romans were the ones who grew on the myths.

The kill is not going to be human. The gods were immortal and couldn't be harmed by mortals.

Ah, but you're mistaken - What about Hercules and Hades?

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 03:29 PM

Hmm, That is not true. it is not probably a greek myth. the greeks stopped writing myths after the Odessey. the Romans were the ones who grew on the myths.

The kill is not going to be human. The gods were immortal and couldn't be harmed by mortals.

You clearly have not played God of War. :P

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 06:54 AM

@ Rykito: Hades was a god, second eldest of Cronus brother of Zeus an Heracles couldn't kill the immortal Hydra if I recall correctly

@ Tantalus: the killer could have been human, since as the son of zeus he would be half god as well.

@Drackir: In god of war you recieve the blades of athena do you not? so these weapons hypothetically would allow you to harm the immortals
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 08:54 AM

@ Rykito: Hades was a god, second eldest of Cronus brother of Zeus an Heracles couldn't kill the immortal Hydra if I recall correctly

@ Tantalus: the killer could have been human, since as the son of zeus he would be half god as well.

@Drackir: In god of war you recieve the blades of athena do you not? so these weapons hypothetically would allow you to harm the immortals

Yeah, I know I was mistaken about the myth behind Hercules - Damn Disney!

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 11:56 AM

But is that enough? How many myths doe you know where any human hurts a god physically.

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 12:56 PM

We talking Greek and Roman only? I've heard of plenty from other nationalities.

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 03:06 PM

Well, yes they ARE the originals. the other ones are just stories, not thier actual religion.

Or are you contempating a dilemma in another branch of mythology?

In that case, did you happen to see the title of this line?

yeah, Who Killed Zeus. ZEUS. how many mythological Pantheons have Zeus in them? Jupiter is also included in this generalization
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 08:34 PM

It's still a mortal hurting a god no matter whether with tools or not. Kratos wins.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 07:09 AM

That is not true, in this case it is all about the weapons.
Sure he's a Spartan Warlord or whatever but It was said that mortal weapons, in the hands of mortal people couldn't harm a god. I think.

this is true for Perseus slaying the Gorgon Medusa. Medusa was the only mortal out of her sisters, despite being thier leader and he could only kill her, even with the gifts he had recieved from Athena, Hades and Hermes.

That doesn't really matter as God of War is a GAME loosely based on ancient mythology in its most basic sense, and I am absolutely certain that Kratos didn't kill Zeus in the original Mythology.

Although it is a wicked awesome game to say the least.
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Posted 23 March 2007 - 08:17 AM

That is not true, in this case it is all about the weapons.
Sure he's a Spartan Warlord or whatever but It was said that mortal weapons, in the hands of mortal people couldn't harm a god. I think.

this is true for Perseus slaying the Gorgon Medusa. Medusa was the only mortal out of her sisters, despite being thier leader and he could only kill her, even with the gifts he had recieved from Athena, Hades and Hermes.

That doesn't really matter as God of War is a GAME loosely based on ancient mythology in its most basic sense, and I am absolutely certain that Kratos didn't kill Zeus in the original Mythology.

Although it is a wicked awesome game to say the least.

Indeed. I think he was using Kratos as a reference to a mortal who hurt a God rather than the killer of Zeus, but no matter.

Also, I'm itching to get my hands on God of War 2. GameFly is gonna be out for a while though, I'm sure, so it may be a bit after its launch before I get to play it.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 11:26 AM

Dude, its sweet. First friggin level there are nudes and ancilla everywhere, do you know what happens? i have only seen the demo.

And for the record, Kratos doesn't count as an example for a race that existed close on 3 centuries ago.
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Posted 26 March 2007 - 02:04 PM

I think I know, Vulcan. vulcan killed Jupiter i think

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 10:50 AM

Yeah, thats what i thought. But the odds are against it, I don't know where i heard that from but it seemed to be the most likely choice, he is the only one with any semblance of hatred towards Zeus and he is highly skilled.
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